💔 @pan@glitch.social · Apr 22, 2018, 12:17

💔 @pan@glitch.social · Apr 22, 2018, 12:17

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just saw half of a conversation where someone is talking about how it’s ableist to make fun of mark zuckerberg for being expressionless (it is) and that we should instead make fun of him for being a “sociopath” (later used the word “psycho” too) and THAT
is ableist too

BIGOTRY IS NOT A MENTAL ILLNESS. if zuckerberg really had whatever mental illness you think “sociopath” means, he’d probably be a very vulnerable and scared person.

“lack of empathy” DOES NOT make evil

💔 @pan@glitch.social · Apr 22, 2018, 12:22

💔 @pan@glitch.social · Apr 22, 2018, 12:22

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infact empathy is a very powerful tool in the hands of someone evil.

this is getting into exactly the sort of territory where mastodon is a bigoted shithole for disabled ppl - folks are always SPEAKING from IGNORANCE about this stuff and the pressure is on isolated mental health activists to be brave and explain all of MH activism from the ground up in the face of mounting disbelief

💔 @pan@glitch.social · Apr 22, 2018, 12:28

💔 @pan@glitch.social · Apr 22, 2018, 12:28

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mark zuckerberg is a rich person who actively propagates and profits from surveillance capitalism and right-wing propaganda

the part where he’s more unsettling or bad, because his face makes slightly uncanny expressions, because you suspect he might not have empathy? that’s YOUR ABLEISM making him seem more inhuman than, say, justin trudeau or any other charming, attractive, allistic-presenting imperialist villain

**Hayes** @haze231 · 2018-04-23T01:51:32Z

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@pan I actually just suspect he has mild Asperger's / on the spectrum somewhere. He is notoriously awkward, and I think he probably felt very uncomfortable in that courtroom especially. Facebook still runs on the like single php doc he wrote it on too, apparently.

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💔 @pan@glitch.social · Apr 23, 2018, 02:02

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@haze231 my point isn't really about whether or not he's autistic, and it's kind of that it doesn't matter because those kinds of things shouldn't be on trial when we judge these prominent figures who act oppressively.

it hurts all autistic people for some villain to be ridiculed for being autistic, or even for such a personal & complicated thing to become public speculation at all. armchair diagnosis is harmful and naive for those reasons

**Hayes** @haze231 · Apr 23, 2018, 02:16

**Hayes** @haze231 · Apr 23, 2018, 02:16

Apr 23, 2018, 02:16

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@pan I agree, people saying Zuckerberg is evil or a psycho, sociopath, what have you based on the way he acts is not what the discussion about the case should be, if not unnecessary conjecture. Also, if anyone actually believes mark was the main 'villain' in what happened, well that's just being naive...

**Hayes** @haze231 · Apr 23, 2018, 02:19

**Hayes** @haze231 · Apr 23, 2018, 02:19

Apr 23, 2018, 02:19

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@pan emphasis on "main" , lol.

Jesus, now I'm wondering if I'm being watched *right now*

I can feel the information war coming, except it already feels like its been happening forever. Now it's just more personal....

**Hayes** @haze231 · Apr 23, 2018, 02:27

**Hayes** @haze231 · Apr 23, 2018, 02:27

Apr 23, 2018, 02:27

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@pan youre right, as far as I know mark has never been diagnosed, it was just speculation.

Gotta say that man fascinates me. If I was in his shoes, like something I wrote up in college to pass the time came to define social networking and literally change the world. So powerful that governments use it to leverage one another. And then have to testify in front of the entire world about the privacy of /hundreds of millions/ of people.

**Hayes** @haze231 · Apr 23, 2018, 02:28

**Hayes** @haze231 · Apr 23, 2018, 02:28

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@pan I could never foresee having so much... Responsibility.